In this time of intense division, it is easy to see those from the other side of the ideological aisle as being the enemy. But the first step in bridging the divide is to try and have a conversation. John reaches out on today's podcast to Mark Sommer, an award-winning radio and print journalist – and noted progressive – to have that conversation. They use climate change and alternative fuels as their conversation catalyst. Unless people can push aside their differences and come up with realistic solutions that work on the ground, the divide doesn't get bridged and nothing is ever accomplished.