Texas Senate Bill 8, the state abortion ban, has taken effect and abortions are down in the state. Opponents are frustrated, but could that frustration boomerang back on conservatives? Back with us today is Jacob Sullum (reason.com), Senior Editor at Reason Magazine. Could this bill, which is on its surface great for pro-lifers, be detrimental to other conservative issues in the future? Jacob and John discuss the precedents that could be set, the pros and cons of the bill, and whether it's actually equal representation regardless of what side you're on. It's a reasoned, fair conversation about Texas's abortion ban and its legal consequences.