Michael McCarter: Tweaking the U.S. Map

Broadcast Running Time: 23:00

John Loeffler

March 11, 2021

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What if, instead of people moving from blue states to red states – to escape terrible policies – geographic parts of the blue states themselves moved? Joining us today is Michael McCarter (, President of Move Oregon's Border. He tells us of his group's initiative to transfer several eastern counties in Oregon into the state of Idaho, effectively moving the border between each state. There are several steps to make this happen, but they have finally managed to get the plan on a May 2021 ballot in Oregon. Ultimately successful or not, the plan highlights the frustration many conservatives have when they are forced to live with terrible policies just because they reside inside a blue state's borders.