the underground church

When times of trouble come upon you and you're facing spiritual red lines, you should already have plans in place on how to deal with it. This week, we speak to two gentlemen who are facing these red lines. First up is Artur Pawlowski (streetchurch.ca), the pastor in Calgary, Alberta who defied the authorities during a Passover service this year, telling them to leave, and calling them Nazis. Later, he and his brother were arrested. He describes his current situation including his arrest and goes on to compare it to the tactics of the communist authorities he witnessed growing up in Poland.

Next we visit with a man who has been battling religious persecution for nearly a decade. Jack Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cake Shop in Lakewood, Colorado, is joined by one his lawyers, Jake Warner (adflegal.org) of Alliance Defending Freedom. They recount the various legal cases Jack has endured and where they are now. Jack also describes his spiritual journey, including his decision to make plans early on as to how to handle the very situation in which he finds himself. These men created spiritual muscle memory in order to endure the hard times.

Finally this week, we welcome someone from across the Pond to analyze America's exceptionalism and the pros and cons that come with it. Joining us from France is Howard Burton (ideas-on-film.com), Founder and Creator of Ideas on Film. He compares and contrasts the perceptions of America from people abroad with those who live here. Few Americans think about their own country's exceptionalism and some even think we're far from outstanding. It's important to know your strengths and weaknesses and do so in truth.

Most people have heard of the nearly decade-long battle waged against Jack Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cake Shop in Lakewood, Colorado. He is back in court again and he's joining us today to give us an update. With him is a member of his legal team, Jake Warner (adflegal.org) of Alliance Defending Freedom. Mr. Warner describes the history of the court cases and why they were brought. Jack recounts his spiritual journey as well as making the decision to be prepared for the battle long before it came.

Jeff Kinley: Christians’ Finest Hour

Broadcast Running Time: 19:18

Whether we are entering the Great Reset or the End Times – or both – Christians need to be ready. Joining us today is Jeff Kinley (jeffkinley.com), Founder of Main Things Ministries, who discusses the gradual reawakening of America's churches following months of lockdowns and virus-related issues. Religious freedom has been threatened but some Christians are starting to push back. If we are to be salt and light to the world, we first need to return to meeting together and reading the Word. And discernment is key; it focuses us on what is important.

In the past couple of days, John has been a guest on two separate radio stations here in the Inland Northwest. We will play both of his interviews today. First, John was featured on KYMS with Lee Lancaster as he is every month. John and Lee discuss leftist legislation and judicial activism, the church during times of trial, and religious persecution – especially against Christians. He then met with local radio legend Tom Read for his personal program 'It Seems to Me.' John chats with Tom about bias in the media.

Why do Marxists find in Christian churches a mortal enemy?  To answer that, we fire up the way back machine to January 1992 and an interview John did with then-CNN correspondent Bud Bultman about his book Revolution by Candlelight.  There were many underground churches in Eastern Europe who led the fight against tyranny in the late 1980s.  They were ultimately successful in part because they were refuges for those opposed to the governing power.  This is why tyrants today are so threatened by the Christian church and why they'll stop at nothing to take them down. 

Since this interview aired nearly 29 years ago, Bud Bultman has retired from CNN and runs his own company in Florida.  His book, Revolution by Candlelight, can be found on Amazon.